Kommentare zu: Social Web in Destination Marketing – tu felix Austria? http://fastenyourseatbelts.at/2007/08/social-web-in-d.html Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:31:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 Von: ronald http://fastenyourseatbelts.at/2007/08/social-web-in-d.html/comment-page-1#comment-173 ronald Sun, 12 Aug 2007 09:59:41 +0000 http://localhost/wp_fasten/?p=195#comment-173 on vacation and not sure to read your blog for the next 3 weeks, but after that i will check your answer. I am not trying to be blunt, but only clear. In many countries i see tax payers money wasted by national tourist boards and governments, so consider this my crusade against the establishment. They simply are too stubborn to change and face the new information era! on vacation and not sure to read your blog for the next 3 weeks, but after that i will check your answer. I am not trying to be blunt, but only clear. In many countries i see tax payers money wasted by national tourist boards and governments, so consider this my crusade against the establishment. They simply are too stubborn to change and face the new information era!

]]> Von: Karin http://fastenyourseatbelts.at/2007/08/social-web-in-d.html/comment-page-1#comment-172 Karin Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:25:28 +0000 http://localhost/wp_fasten/?p=195#comment-172 Ronald, I am delighted for you to comment and putting it so bluntly. Will reply on Monday. Ronald, I am delighted for you to comment and putting it so bluntly. Will reply on Monday.

]]> Von: ronald http://fastenyourseatbelts.at/2007/08/social-web-in-d.html/comment-page-1#comment-171 ronald Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:10:59 +0000 http://localhost/wp_fasten/?p=195#comment-171 These travelsites, even the ones you mention to be succesfull, like www.holland.com will never be succesfull. These sites are simply no social networks: people often travel to a destionation once and why should they start blogging, post videoos and more? There is simple no personal reason for tourists do to so as they have no bonding, like people have with youtube or tripadvisor.com . Holland.com uses already "hired" bloggers, the activities on this recently started site are low and so on. Hey folks, stop waisting our tax money! Only if European countries are starting to work together on a European web2.0 project, there may be change of succes. In the end the private sector, like ad-hoc cooperation between hotelchains and airlines, working closely togehter with local initiatives/people, will take over these activities and (unfortunately for them) the traditional tourist boards are doomed to dissappear... These travelsites, even the ones you mention to be succesfull, like http://www.holland.com will never be succesfull. These sites are simply no social networks: people often travel to a destionation once and why should they start blogging, post videoos and more? There is simple no personal reason for tourists do to so as they have no bonding, like people have with youtube or tripadvisor.com . Holland.com uses already “hired” bloggers, the activities on this recently started site are low and so on. Hey folks, stop waisting our tax money! Only if European countries are starting to work together on a European web2.0 project, there may be change of succes. In the end the private sector, like ad-hoc cooperation between hotelchains and airlines, working closely togehter with local initiatives/people, will take over these activities and (unfortunately for them) the traditional tourist boards are doomed to dissappear…

]]> Von: Karin http://fastenyourseatbelts.at/2007/08/social-web-in-d.html/comment-page-1#comment-170 Karin Thu, 09 Aug 2007 08:53:03 +0000 http://localhost/wp_fasten/?p=195#comment-170 Martin, Let me assure you, I will be the first one to rejoice, if I am prooven wrong. As of now, I do not see it happening. The official launch is due in 5 weeks. Way to go, folks. Martin,
Let me assure you, I will be the first one to rejoice, if I am prooven wrong. As of now, I do not see it happening. The official launch is due in 5 weeks. Way to go, folks.

]]> Von: Martin Schobert http://fastenyourseatbelts.at/2007/08/social-web-in-d.html/comment-page-1#comment-169 Martin Schobert Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:11:58 +0000 http://localhost/wp_fasten/?p=195#comment-169 Thanks Karin for your critical comment. Espacially your refering to Helge´s comment brings it to the point: what is the value for somebody to open his privacy in the www? The only suitable answer: Only when there is a return on investment for himself, for the time and the engagement to produce content which possibly might not be interessting for anybody else. This is not only valid for travel communities - each social web-platform has to follow to this rule. If not - there is no chance to develop as "living community". You know that coolaustria.com is "under construction". It is still a beta version and our partner ist still working on an improvement of the beta version. And at the moment we (Austrian National Tourist Office) develop our new social web strategie for the next few years. You know, that there was an organisational change in our company and also the responsible persons for online-strategy and e-marketing have changed a few weeks ago. Please - give us some more time to find the best solutions for future social web activities of our organisations. You will be one of the first who are informed when we know more about this. Do you agree? Thanks Karin for your critical comment. Espacially your refering to Helge´s comment brings it to the point: what is the value for somebody to open his privacy in the www? The only suitable answer: Only when there is a return on investment for himself, for the time and the engagement to produce content which possibly might not be interessting for anybody else. This is not only valid for travel communities – each social web-platform has to follow to this rule. If not – there is no chance to develop as “living community”.

You know that coolaustria.com is “under construction”. It is still a beta version and our partner ist still working on an improvement of the beta version. And at the moment we (Austrian National Tourist Office) develop our new social web strategie for the next few years. You know, that there was an organisational change in our company and also the responsible persons for online-strategy and e-marketing have changed a few weeks ago.

Please – give us some more time to find the best solutions for future social web activities of our organisations. You will be one of the first who are informed when we know more about this. Do you agree?

]]> Von: Karin http://fastenyourseatbelts.at/2007/08/social-web-in-d.html/comment-page-1#comment-168 Karin Tue, 07 Aug 2007 08:07:37 +0000 http://localhost/wp_fasten/?p=195#comment-168 Hi Edward, Well, I am not quite sure. I suspect money is a factor. Thanks for stopping by. Hi Edward,
Well, I am not quite sure. I suspect money is a factor. Thanks for stopping by.

]]> Von: edu william http://fastenyourseatbelts.at/2007/08/social-web-in-d.html/comment-page-1#comment-167 edu william Mon, 06 Aug 2007 17:24:28 +0000 http://localhost/wp_fasten/?p=195#comment-167 Yes karin. Internet needs to improve the software very fast. Destinations believe is better to develop its own systems, but they are public administrations! perhaps the organizations more slow. if they want to offer a competitive system, i think they must work with ASP. regards, edu Yes karin. Internet needs to improve the software very fast. Destinations believe is better to develop its own systems, but they are public administrations! perhaps the organizations more slow. if they want to offer a competitive system, i think they must work with ASP.
regards,
edu

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